Ep 3: Failure

What does it mean to fail?

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What does it mean to fail? How do you define failures? The warriors sit down and try to figure it out.

Liner Notes:

“Success is not final, failure not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.”
– Winston Churchill

“You never release, you truly fail.”
– The War with Art, Pacifist Fishermen, and Pornographers everywhere…

Image from Eric’s “The Devil’s Leech”:

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Sheldon wanted to post his “failed” short story, but it’s being considered right now by one of his favorite magazines…

3 thoughts on “Ep 3: Failure

  1. Hey guys! Another great ep!

    So IMO, Rejection != Failure

    If your goal is ‘get published’, you’re not fighting a creative battle but a marketing one. You have to convince someone that your work is something they can sell and make money for their company– it’s never a marker of inherent quality or even value to other people– you’re just trying to convince someone who thinks they understand the market (which is ever-changing) and who wants a safe bet to get a return on their investment in you.

    A lot of absolute GARBAGE gets published and makes a crapton of money. Every day. All the time. It’s not a marker of quality, it’s a marker of someone being able to sell it to as many people as possible.

    But even successful, traditionally published authors can rarely make a living off of writing novels. It’s just not a reasonable expectation to have, because a huge part of the equation is luck or circumstances outside of your control– nothing to do with creative ability in the least.

    I think by the end of the ep you got around to the perception of failure that I do agree with– failure to finish is the real failure. Everything else is a step in a forward direction.

    Anyway, if your goal is to get eyes on your work (and possibly dollars in return), your best bet is to hire someone whose job it is to do just that. As much as I’d love to believe that a good product speaks for itself, it’s not true. You need someone to sell it for you, if you’re not willing to do that yourself.

    If you’re like me and find the creativity far more rewarding than anything that comes after that, selling it isn’t as much of a concern. But that’s why I elected not to make my visual art into my career, hahaha!

    Once again, thank you so much for sharing your viewpoints on this subject! I think it’s so interesting, and it also helps me get some perspective on my own creative challenges.

    All the best,

    Shadrad

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  2. Boy oh boy this hit really close to home. It’s on my lawn and I’m shaking my walking cane at it and screaming at it to leave. That isn’t to say I enjoyed this one as well as the past two.

    Lots was said and I agree with a majority of the thing you fellers discussed, also a lot of it is all a matter of perception. With that in mind I’ll give my two existential cents on the subject.

    But before I do here’s a little bit about myself. I’m the self teaching type. Everything that I’ve learned of the drums, everything I’ve made in Photoshop is a product of my own teachings- which is likely why it’s all garbage haha! Heyyyyy! oh….I made myself sad. Seriously though. Every time I boot that program up I have one goal in mind. Learn something new.

    Just like Eric said, “failure is the best teacher”. Not only that but it increases efficiency, allowing one to reach the end goal faster and save on time while still maintaining a presentable piece of art.

    I really do want to add more but in my opinion failure is all a matter of perspective. I think nearly every radio station is a failure because it’s the same god damn 10 songs every night and I have to hear it at work unless I’m listening to my podcasts or music. Let’s file that under painful personal issues.

    That Churchill quote is gold.
    Eric, that line work makes my eyes smile.

    I’ll probably miss next weeks episode due to Christmas plans and all that holiday… “fun” we’ll call it, but I WILL get around to listening to it. Just not sure when.

    Merry Christmas and happy holidays from that weird borderline psychopath who you’ve met a few times.
    Have a good one, guys \m/,

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